Still need pie crust tips!

Hi Everyone...

Nobody posted comments...but I tried yet again to make pie crust. This time I made two crusts - two different ways! My blueberry pie crust actually came out ok. It was made with half butter-half shortening. The other was an apple pie. The crust was made with vegetable shortening and it came out tough.

Here are some pics. Please send me any tips...how do I know if I've put enough water? How do I know if  I've added too much? My crusts often crumble when I'm rolling it out which is supposed to mean there wasn't enough water. However, I put a 1/4 cup of ice water as the recipe states...HELP MOI!

Need pie crust tips!!!

Hello,

I've been trying to make a proper pie crust 2 weekends in a row now. Its hard!
Does anyone have any no fail recipes or some great tips , passed on from generations or something?
The one I made this weekend almost came out right but when I rolled it out and tried to put it in my pie dish it fell apart. So I did some patching and so on...It didn't work out that well. My pie didn't have an edge..it was bumpy and just plain ugly. As a matter of fact it was even uglier when first assembled. My boyfriend was laughing and laughing..I had thrown the apples into the pie dish because I was so eager to put the top crust on. Anyways, the apples were uneven in the dish so when I put the top crust on, there was his big mound on one side. It was funny, you had to be there. I flattened the pie, crust on.

Here's a picture of my ugly - but tasty pie with a forkful taken out of it. I couldn't wait!! It was really good!!
3rd times a charm??